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Submitted by IsaacBlue on Fri, 01/06/2023 - 09:40

What about a misdemeanor, say, battery, not committed in an officer's presence?  I had a misdemeanor battery of a victim by a suspect unknown to her.  The battery was unprovoked and was captured on video and was witnessed by an independent party.  The victim was desirous of prosecution and willing to sign a private person's arrest form.  At the time, I was unable to locate the suspect.  If I were to locate the suspect the next day and detained him.  Would I be able to have the victim respond, if available and could respond in a reasonable amount of time, to identify him, sign the private person's arrest form and make the arrest?

Thanks for all the help and time you all put into this.  

Submitted by fire88 on Sat, 01/07/2023 - 08:55

Isaac – Interesting that your question mirrors another question posed to me by a Petaluma P.D. officer (former student) last month.

The article I posted “Stale or Cold Misdemeanor Rule – A Fossil” (3/1/22 – CAB00139) and another article posted by Bob Phillips - Disturbing the Peace and Refusal to Identify (11/27/22 – CAC0089) both reference 836 P.C. Here is an excerpt from Bob’s analysis.

Arresting for a Misdemeanor that Did Not Occur in the Officers’ Presence:  In what the Court refers to as a mere “wrinkle” in the legal analysis of this case, it was noted that whether Vanegas was arrested for Pen. Code §§ 415(2) or 148(a)(1), doing so violated California’s statutory requirement that an officer can arrest for a misdemeanor only if that misdemeanor occurred in the officer’s presence.  (See Pen. Code § 836(a)(1).)  In this case, by the time Officer Klotz got involved, the defendant’s crime had already occurred.  It did not occur in Officer Klotz’s presence.  However, the Fourth Amendment has no such limitation.  The “in the presence” rule is a California statutory requirement only, and not one that “is . . . grounded in the Fourth Amendment.”  (See Welsh v. Wisconsin (1984) 466 U.S. 740, 756; and Barry v. Fowler(9th Cir. 199) 902 F.2nd 770, 772.)  In other words, while arresting for a misdemeanor that did not occur in the officer’s presence may violate Pen. Code § 836(a)(1), it does not also violate the Fourth Amendment.  “Rather, the ‘crucial inquiry’ is whether Officer Klotz had probable cause to make the arrest. . . . Here, we hold that he did.”  There being no constitutional violation, no sanctions, including potential civil liability, may be imposed.

   With that said, I see no reason why the case law quoted in both articles would not apply to 837 P.C. The key elements are (and always will be) - Was there a “fair probability” or “substantial chance” that a 242 P.C. violation occurred. You certainly have these elements here – Victim statement, video evidence, and independent witness. If this were a felony, you would grab the suspect the next day. Case law supports the same option for a misdemeanor.

   So I will give you the same educational opinion (and that’s what it is because a legal opinion has to come from your City Attorney’s Office) I gave to the Petaluma officer. Detain (in essence you have constructive custody in the field in the same way you would have with most retail petty theft cases), investigate, ask questions (no actual custody – No Miranda), then issue out a misdemeanor citation to appear based upon probable cause. Probably no different in Santa Monica than it is here in the North Bay area, we don’t book most misdemeanors (853.6 P.C.).

   Unless your department policy so dictates, I see no reason to try and locate the victim and have him/her come to the scene for a private person’s arrest.

   Hope this helps with your question.

   Stay Safe!

   Ray Hill, Professor Emeritus

   Santa Rosa Junior College

   LUPC Faculty

 

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