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Submitted by Greg--B on Wed, 04/19/2023 - 15:57

If you are interested, or if would affect your understanding that the safety issue is speculative. I can gather instances when detained subjects used live streaming in an effort to have people respond to the location of a stop.  I can also research instances when subjects called reinforcements to a scene.  If subjects have made a call for individuals to respond I think it is reasonable to extrapolate the use of livestreaming can easily be used to reach out to a large group of people in much the same way.  While officers are attempting to prevent a specific harm and a blanket rule allowing officers to prevent livestreaming may seem overly broad, the reality is it would be unreasonable to expect officers to know what purpose the livestreaming is serving.  Further, absent what would surely be seen as a violation of CalECPA and the 4th Amendment, officers have no way to examine the device used for livestreaming in order to evaluate the risk. 

Submitted by Robert Phillips on Wed, 04/19/2023 - 20:18

Greg:  Valid arguments.  Thanks for the input.  Like I said; the Sharpe case is not binding on California, or the 9th Circuit.  What we need to obtain a contrary appellate court decision (state or 9th Cir.) is expert testimony (such as from yourself) enlightening the court as to the dangers of allowing livestreaming, with examples where problems did in fact arise.  In the meantime, I would expect officers to do what they feel they need to do, under the then-existing circumstances, to insure their own safety.  The legality of doing so as it might relate to the First or Fourth Amendments can be litegated afterwards.

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